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'Latest Returned Sevilian' posted by Maciel - 05/02/2006, 04:43:35
'you *catches in a net* *throws in the dungeon* *the dungeon is actually a ball p...' posted by Aishae of sentience - 05/02/2006, 16:41:29

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, 'I belong to Paul'
, 'I belong to Paul', and antheor, 'I belong to Apollos', are you not merely human?"and amend it slightly, "For when Sze Zeng says, 'they belonged to Antioch', and 'they belonged to Alexandria', is he not merely reducing Christianity to be purely human?" That is the sense in which I used "(Roman) Catholic Church". Incidentally, the book of doctrine is called "the Catechism of the Catholic Church", as opposed to "the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church". The "Roman" is pretty much incidental.Similarly, The Pope and the patriarch of Constantinople are "heads" in the same way that Saint Paul wanted fathers to be heads of their families, not as emperors but as figureheads, although as active figureheads, not passive ones.That is what makes your classic Protestant caricature of the Church/Rome/Vatican so inaccurate. You are right to say that there was no centralized administration in the Church in the first five centuries, but you are wrong to say that there was any centralized administration in the Church after the first five centuries.In fact, the Church set up the Inquisition in the Middle Ages because of this lack of centralized administration. The Inquisition was set up in response to a large massacre that occurred in France which caused great distress to the Pope at that time, as the violence and bloodshed of the Crusades distressed his later successors.However, even the Inquisition tribunals were decentralized with respect to Rome. France, Spain, Germany and Rome and the Italian States each carried out their own Inquisitions, with no central administrative direction.(3) As I have explained above, you are committing a Fallacy of Composition and Fallacy of Division error when you assert that the church in Malaysia should purge itself because the church in Ireland should purge itself.The Dioceses of Penang and Johor are independent of the Dioceses in Ireland, and even their Archdiocese in Singapore.Although you misunderstanding of how the Catholic Church functions is a common Protestant misunderstanding, it is a misunderstanding nonetheless. And not only that; it appears to imply a misunderstanding of Scripture as well.





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