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For example, H1 and
For example, H1 and U5a are both trteaed as "star patterns", even though H1 has nearly 100 unique daughters while U5a has only two.Gail, are we reading the same paper? Fig. 4 shows a star pattern in U5a with 26 unique positions. H1 is not even plotted; S3 lists 70, not 100. I admit I am confused though, as it seems that every sample is unique - but perhaps that is to be expected due to the random selection and full genome resolution.Given the closeness of Epipaleolithic and early Neolithic populations is very close its hard to discern which is at fault.Andrew, a lot of the European dates are in the 15,000 to 20,000ya range - that is not close to Neolithic, at all. You would have to propose a factor of ~1/3 error. In fact, as always when many dates are in that time period, if anything, it seems to me the dates should be corrected by about a factor of 1.5 to make sense. There clearly was no expansion in Europe during that time, but there was before (post-LGM) and after (Gravettian, ~22,000 - 30,000ya huge pan-European expansion).Since they apparently did the ground work, I would have liked to see a color-coded network of the joint European and Middle-Eastern H populations. I don't see how that would not give a clue to the H origin and timing in Europe.





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